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		<title>Gruz 200&#8242;s religious message</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 06:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#8217;t expect Cargo 200 to be given the sort of review that Sophie Scholl, Die Letzten Tage got in Christianity Today, or which Rod Dreher over at CrunchyCon gave to Ostrov. Pastors are not going to work it into their newsletter messages and encourage their parishioners to watch it. Not when it gets reviews <a href='http://kino.reticulator.com/2008/10/14/gruz-200s-religious-message/'>[...]</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t expect Cargo 200 to be given the sort of review that <a href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/movies/reviews/2006/sophiescholl.html">Sophie Scholl, Die Letzten Tage</a> got in Christianity Today, or which Rod Dreher over at CrunchyCon gave to <a href="http://blog.beliefnet.com/crunchycon/2008/04/ostrov-the-island.html">Ostrov</a>. Pastors are not going to work it into their newsletter messages and encourage their parishioners to watch it. Not when it gets reviews like <a href="http://blog.spout.com/2008/09/23/cargo-200-review-fantastic-fest-2008/">this</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Aleksei Balabanov’s brutal, fetid vision of personal sadism and political policy intermingled is the only work of serious, modern social criticism in recent memory that actually made me want to puke. This is a compliment of the highest order.</p></blockquote>
<p>That only begins to describe how disgusting it is.  There are parts of it I still haven&#8217;t made myself watch a 2nd time.  (It&#8217;s harder, now that I know what&#8217;s coming.)  But there are overtly religious parts at the beginning and end to make one think.</p>
<p>The one at the beginning helps set the stage. It&#8217;s a vodka-fueled disagreement about the existence of God, with an unreformed sexual abuser of young girls who is also a convicted murderer taking the side of God&#8217;s existence.</p>
<p>A spoiler follows. If you want to watch the film first, go <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jPUdg2VqXo">here</a>:</p>
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<p>The surprise is not too far from the end end, where one of the characters goes to a church and asks about the procedure for christening. An old woman tells him it&#8217;s not a procedure, it&#8217;s a ceremony. And then she tells him that while he waits for the Father he should sit over there and pray. And he goes and sits down.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s not a lot more than that to it. One isn&#8217;t sure if he&#8217;s still running from his responsibilities and the filth of his world, or whether he&#8217;s now headed in a new direction.  If he is, it&#8217;s the only hopeful moment in the whole film.   But there is reasonable doubt even about that.</p>
<p>Back to procedure vs ceremony. I wonder what the Russian words that are translated that way mean. Is the woman telling him something like, &#8220;It&#8217;s not a rite, it&#8217;s a sacrament?&#8221; Is procedure something people do vs ceremony being something God does?</p>
<p>At the beginning we are told that the film is based on true events. I wish I knew more about the true event behind this part of the story.</p>
<p>(I just now removed some of the details to make this a bit less of a spoiler than it was.)</p>
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		<title>Ostrov</title>
		<link>http://kino.reticulator.com/2008/07/11/ostrov-2/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 07:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tonight we finished watching Ostrov. Some random comments: Some of the camera work (and scenery) reminded me of Vozvrashcheniye (The Return), which is the first Russian movie I watched, and which I still think is the best one I&#8217;ve seen. I&#8217;ll give Ostrov a &#8220;5&#8243; at Netflix, too, though. This is the first film in <a href='http://kino.reticulator.com/2008/07/11/ostrov-2/'>[...]</a>]]></description>
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<p>Tonight we finished watching <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostrov_(film)">Ostrov</a>.   Some random comments:</p>
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<li>Some of the camera work (and scenery) reminded me of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vozvrashcheniye">Vozvrashcheniye</a> (The Return), which is the first Russian movie I watched, and which I still think is the best one I&#8217;ve seen.   I&#8217;ll give Ostrov a &#8220;5&#8243; at Netflix, too, though.</li>
<li>This is the first film in which I&#8217;ve heard a Russian chorus, sacred or otherwise, singing off-key.  I thought it perhaps wasn&#8217;t possible.</li>
<li>I was surprised that the big surprise near the end wasn&#8217;t a lot more surprising for the participants.   I presume it was done this way on purpose.  I have no reason to think it was due to a lack of acting ability.</li>
<li>I see that Pyotr Mamanov really is <a href="http://www.eni.ch/featured/article.php?id=561">against abortion</a>.</li>
<li>My wife was wondering why Father Job is called Job.   Do Russian monks really take that name?  And what is the symbolism.  Why wasn&#8217;t he called Father Cain?  He had a good way of demonstrating Cain&#8217;s sacrifice.</li>
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<p>I&#8217;ll be watching it at least once more before sending it back, for language-learning purposes.</p>
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		<title>Ostrov 1-6</title>
		<link>http://kino.reticulator.com/2008/06/27/ostrov-1-6/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 06:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tonight we got up to section 6 of Ostrov. It&#8217;s reminding me a little bit of C.S. Lewis&#8217;s, &#8220;The Great Divorce.&#8221; Pilgrims come to Father Anatoly for prayers and healing, and he has a knack for finding the real problem, which is not necessarily the one they asked for help with. It&#8217;s something the petitioners <a href='http://kino.reticulator.com/2008/06/27/ostrov-1-6/'>[...]</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tonight we got up to section 6 of Ostrov. It&#8217;s reminding me a little bit of C.S. Lewis&#8217;s, &#8220;The Great Divorce.&#8221; Pilgrims come to Father Anatoly for prayers and healing, and he has a knack for finding the real problem, which is not necessarily the one they asked for help with. It&#8217;s something the petitioners don&#8217;t want to let go of, but which they need to do to find joy. (I say joy because it&#8217;s a term one might find in a C.S. Lewis book. I&#8217;m not sure whether or not it&#8217;ll ever appear in a Russian movie.)</p>
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<div>This is one of those scenes that we watched tonight.  But if you need subtitles, you&#8217;ll have to get the version we got from Netflix.   (When I watch without subtitles, I sometimes pick up a few words that I missed when I was too busy trying to read and listen at the same time.)</div>
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		<title>Ostrov</title>
		<link>http://kino.reticulator.com/2008/06/25/ostrov/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 06:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Reticulator</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[We started watching Ostrov tonight. (Especially in summer, we only have time for a little bit of movie-watching here and there &#8212; maybe 20 minutes on those nights when we have time. On a weekend we might go crazy and watch a half-hour&#8217;s worth.) I was surprised at the reference to abortion. I didn&#8217;t know <a href='http://kino.reticulator.com/2008/06/25/ostrov/'>[...]</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We started watching Ostrov tonight. (Especially in summer, we only have time for a little bit of movie-watching here and there &#8212; maybe 20 minutes on those nights when we have time. On a weekend we might go crazy and watch a half-hour&#8217;s worth.)</p>
<p>I was surprised at the reference to abortion. I didn&#8217;t know it was allowed to say things like that in movies, even in Russian movies.</p>
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<div>This YouTube clip shows the part I&#8217;m referring to.  It doesn&#8217;t have subtitles like the Netflix DVD does, but if I remember right, the girl wants to get a blessing from the monk for an abortion.  He says something along the lines of &#8220;You&#8217;re going to hell and you want to drag me there with you?&#8221;   (I don&#8217;t know the word for hell in Russian, among a whole lot of other words I don&#8217;t understand, but some of what I do understand makes me think the subtitles might not be too far off.  My memory might be off, though.)   The monk advises her not to kill a person and spend the rest of her life regretting it like he is doing, and also tells her she will have a boy.   Then he chases her off his island.   (The reviews say he is &#8220;erratic.&#8221;)</div>
<div>I can&#8217;t wait to watch the next 20 minutes worth.</div>
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