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		<title>Comment on See-thru dress hats by Reticulator</title>
		<link>http://kino.reticulator.com/2011/09/13/see-thru-dress-hats/comment-page-1/#comment-8711</link>
		<dc:creator>Reticulator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 04:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Alexander.

Sounds like maybe that word vorot is a cognate of the one in Pokrovsky Vorota.  I can at least imagine a similarity in meaning.    I think a kosovorotka like Savva Ignatevich&#039;s with suit jacket or sports jacket would fit in well with recent styles -- I wouldn&#039;t mind wearing one of those myself if people of kraut ancestry are allowed to wear them -- but I haven&#039;t seen anything exactly like that where I live.

I suppose I shouldn&#039;t have used Ignatevich as a standalone word, since it looks like a patronymic and not a family name.  

I think the first time I saw a white summer suit in person was July 4, 1976, when Hubert Horatio Humphrey was campaigning for president.  He was wearing one of those when he gave an old-fashioned stemwinder of a speech at a city park where our family had gone for the day&#039;s celebration -- all day and well into the evening.  I didn&#039;t care to vote for him, but I liked his suit.   

John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Alexander.</p>
<p>Sounds like maybe that word vorot is a cognate of the one in Pokrovsky Vorota.  I can at least imagine a similarity in meaning.    I think a kosovorotka like Savva Ignatevich&#8217;s with suit jacket or sports jacket would fit in well with recent styles &#8212; I wouldn&#8217;t mind wearing one of those myself if people of kraut ancestry are allowed to wear them &#8212; but I haven&#8217;t seen anything exactly like that where I live.</p>
<p>I suppose I shouldn&#8217;t have used Ignatevich as a standalone word, since it looks like a patronymic and not a family name.  </p>
<p>I think the first time I saw a white summer suit in person was July 4, 1976, when Hubert Horatio Humphrey was campaigning for president.  He was wearing one of those when he gave an old-fashioned stemwinder of a speech at a city park where our family had gone for the day&#8217;s celebration &#8212; all day and well into the evening.  I didn&#8217;t care to vote for him, but I liked his suit.   </p>
<p>John</p>
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		<title>Comment on See-thru dress hats by Alexander</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 19:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>// One thing we didn’t have in the U.S. (unfortunately) is the kind of Ukrainian shirt the Khrushchev and Ignatevich characters are wearing.  I presume there’s a name for it but I don’t know what it is.  (I’m not even sure it’s Ukrainian, as opposed to Russian.) //

It is a &quot;kosovorotka&quot; that means a slanting neck: kosoy + vorot = kosovorotka.
Really, this sort of shirt is Ukrainian and Russian clothes, but the design we see here (and that was worn to 1960s, I suppose) it&#039;s a stylized thing, not an original ethnographic one.

As for the &quot;see-through dress hats&quot;, I saw the same during my childhood in late 1970s - 1980s in Ural (!), at summer season, of course. But these hats went out of fashion, so only the pensioners wore such hats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>// One thing we didn’t have in the U.S. (unfortunately) is the kind of Ukrainian shirt the Khrushchev and Ignatevich characters are wearing.  I presume there’s a name for it but I don’t know what it is.  (I’m not even sure it’s Ukrainian, as opposed to Russian.) //</p>
<p>It is a &#8220;kosovorotka&#8221; that means a slanting neck: kosoy + vorot = kosovorotka.<br />
Really, this sort of shirt is Ukrainian and Russian clothes, but the design we see here (and that was worn to 1960s, I suppose) it&#8217;s a stylized thing, not an original ethnographic one.</p>
<p>As for the &#8220;see-through dress hats&#8221;, I saw the same during my childhood in late 1970s &#8211; 1980s in Ural (!), at summer season, of course. But these hats went out of fashion, so only the pensioners wore such hats.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Padded doors by David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2011 17:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was younger (during the 70&#039;s) I was in a doctor&#039;s office that had orange padding on the door much the same as the padding shown in the screen captures above. I&#039;m guessing it was for privacy and sound-proofing. I&#039;ve never seen any doors since with padding. In a modern office they would be useless anyway since sound now drifts through drop ceilings from room to room anyway. Just to add I live in Canada - since the OP asked if these doors were used only in Russia or in other countries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was younger (during the 70&#8242;s) I was in a doctor&#8217;s office that had orange padding on the door much the same as the padding shown in the screen captures above. I&#8217;m guessing it was for privacy and sound-proofing. I&#8217;ve never seen any doors since with padding. In a modern office they would be useless anyway since sound now drifts through drop ceilings from room to room anyway. Just to add I live in Canada &#8211; since the OP asked if these doors were used only in Russia or in other countries.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Padded doors by Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2011 16:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am reading Robert Ludlum&#039;s &quot;Tristan Betrayal.&quot;  He mentions these doors.  Says they were to prevent ease dropping by security police and informers.  It won&#039;t be long and we will be using them here.  Schools, I have heard, want children to inform on their parents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am reading Robert Ludlum&#8217;s &#8220;Tristan Betrayal.&#8221;  He mentions these doors.  Says they were to prevent ease dropping by security police and informers.  It won&#8217;t be long and we will be using them here.  Schools, I have heard, want children to inform on their parents.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Party-Time by Num Lock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Num Lock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2010 12:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This phonograph is fully transistorized and was sold in Soviet Union under brand name &quot;Accord&quot;. http://rw6ase.narod.ru/000/rez1/akkord201.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This phonograph is fully transistorized and was sold in Soviet Union under brand name &#8220;Accord&#8221;. <a href="http://rw6ase.narod.ru/000/rez1/akkord201.html" rel="nofollow">http://rw6ase.narod.ru/000/rez1/akkord201.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Twentysomething lost in books by Alexander Sedov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexander Sedov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Oct 2010 02:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is most poetic post in your blog, John :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is most poetic post in your blog, John <img src='http://kino.reticulator.com/j/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Insidious Marathon by Reticulator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reticulator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 01:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Alexander.  I suppose that&#039;s one possibility. :-)   I did find this &lt;a href=&quot;http://movies.nytimes.com/person/29250/Natalya-Gundareva&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;paragraph&lt;/a&gt; on the NY Times web site, but it&#039;s pretty bad when my own little blog appears as high as page 2 of a Google search on her name.     -John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Alexander.  I suppose that&#8217;s one possibility. <img src='http://kino.reticulator.com/j/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />    I did find this <a href="http://movies.nytimes.com/person/29250/Natalya-Gundareva" rel="nofollow">paragraph</a> on the NY Times web site, but it&#8217;s pretty bad when my own little blog appears as high as page 2 of a Google search on her name.     -John</p>
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		<title>Comment on Insidious Marathon by Alexander Sedov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexander Sedov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Sep 2010 18:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently, the control over the publications has increased already very high level, if you can not find the analysis of actors&#039; works of  Natalya Gundareva in English.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently, the control over the publications has increased already very high level, if you can not find the analysis of actors&#8217; works of  Natalya Gundareva in English.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Zloy dukh Yambuya by Alexander Sedov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexander Sedov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 22:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really, at this day the Evenies got the Communist boss&#039; permission to lauth -- and after a foreinger is gone, they were eat by Evil Spirit of Yambuy :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really, at this day the Evenies got the Communist boss&#8217; permission to lauth &#8212; and after a foreinger is gone, they were eat by Evil Spirit of Yambuy <img src='http://kino.reticulator.com/j/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Music for Pokayanie by Kino Reticulator &#187; Beethoven Repentance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kino Reticulator &#187; Beethoven Repentance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jun 2010 03:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The part I was thinking about is what I blogged here: http://kino.reticulator.com/2009/04/26/music-for-pokayanie/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The part I was thinking about is what I blogged here: <a href="http://kino.reticulator.com/2009/04/26/music-for-pokayanie/" rel="nofollow">http://kino.reticulator.com/2009/04/26/music-for-pokayanie/</a> [...]</p>
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